Comments on: My Computer is More Secure than Yours, or Not- the PC vs. Mac Security Debate http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/ The Latest News in Cybersecurity Fri, 20 Jan 2012 01:47:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Albert Gonzales http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-5427 Albert Gonzales Mon, 12 Apr 2010 04:01:24 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-5427 Thank you! That was very helpful, I just saved your site. Thank you! That was very helpful, I just saved your site.

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]]> By: Michael Cheek http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-1500 Michael Cheek Tue, 02 Mar 2010 15:18:36 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-1500 I recently came across the following interview with Charlie Miller, winner of the Pwn2Own contest. He weighs in a bit on the mac v. pc security debate in the interview. http://www.oneitsecurity.it/01/03/2010/interview-with-charlie-miller-pwn2own/ I recently came across the following interview with Charlie Miller, winner of the Pwn2Own contest. He weighs in a bit on the mac v. pc security debate in the interview.

http://www.oneitsecurity.it/01/03/2010/interview-with-charlie-miller-pwn2own/

]]> By: wirefresh » Apple’s Mac OS X: “less secure than Windows” http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-551 wirefresh » Apple’s Mac OS X: “less secure than Windows” Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:28:54 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-551 [...] reading: In their words: Experts weigh in on Mac vs. PC security [CNet] My Computer is More Secure Than Yours, or Not- the PC vs. Mac Security Debate [NewNewInternet] Apple’s Mac OS X is less secure than Windows [Inquirer] Once Upon a [...] [...] reading: In their words: Experts weigh in on Mac vs. PC security [CNet] My Computer is More Secure Than Yours, or Not- the PC vs. Mac Security Debate [NewNewInternet] Apple’s Mac OS X is less secure than Windows [Inquirer] Once Upon a [...]

]]> By: Jeff B http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-500 Jeff B Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:48:04 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-500 "As an aside Jeff, regarding 3ric’s comment, the metrics in that case are based as a percentage not in terms of total vulnerabilities published based on total number of users." I don't understand what you're trying to say here. 3ric said we should "look at the number of published vulnerabilities in software and the number of users". In other words, if Mac OS had a million users and a thousand vulnerabilities, and Windows had a hundred million users and ten thousand vulnerabilities, he's suggesting that would make Windows ten times as secure. If he didn't mean something this incredibly silly, I wish he (or you) could explain what he DID mean. “As an aside Jeff, regarding 3ric’s comment, the metrics in that case are based as a percentage not in terms of total vulnerabilities published based on total number of users.”

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here. 3ric said we should “look at the number of published vulnerabilities in software and the number of users”. In other words, if Mac OS had a million users and a thousand vulnerabilities, and Windows had a hundred million users and ten thousand vulnerabilities, he’s suggesting that would make Windows ten times as secure.

If he didn’t mean something this incredibly silly, I wish he (or you) could explain what he DID mean.

]]> By: Michael Cheek http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-493 Michael Cheek Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:35:08 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-493 Perhaps the most interesting concept I found in researching this piece is that, like much of the general public, I have always viewed Macs as the more secure platform. However, I think the comments from the various experts points to a much less 'cut and dried' picture (namely that neither is more secure). Most importantly of course, the human behind the computer is ultimately the driving factor in security (on both sides). Individuals seeking to do harm via the Internet (hackers) commonly exploit 'mistakes' by users, such as not updating software, etc. Carole Fennelly, of Tenable Network Security, had perhaps the best response, saying "the most secure system is the one that you know how to secure." As an aside Jeff, regarding 3ric's comment, the metrics in that case are based as a percentage not in terms of total vulnerabilities published based on total number of users. Despite that, I do agree that published vulnerabilities doesn't necessarily mean better security. I think that is a central problem in cyber security presently, finding adequate metrics to measure the effectiveness of security. Perhaps the most interesting concept I found in researching this piece is that, like much of the general public, I have always viewed Macs as the more secure platform. However, I think the comments from the various experts points to a much less ‘cut and dried’ picture (namely that neither is more secure). Most importantly of course, the human behind the computer is ultimately the driving factor in security (on both sides). Individuals seeking to do harm via the Internet (hackers) commonly exploit ‘mistakes’ by users, such as not updating software, etc.

Carole Fennelly, of Tenable Network Security, had perhaps the best response, saying “the most secure system is the one that you know how to secure.”

As an aside Jeff, regarding 3ric’s comment, the metrics in that case are based as a percentage not in terms of total vulnerabilities published based on total number of users. Despite that, I do agree that published vulnerabilities doesn’t necessarily mean better security. I think that is a central problem in cyber security presently, finding adequate metrics to measure the effectiveness of security.

]]> By: Jeff B http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-490 Jeff B Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:37:43 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-490 "Mac OS has far more published vulnerabilities per user than Windows does so I think the data pretty much speaks for itself." Yes, and what "the data says" is this: "published vulnerabilities per user" is an inconceivably stupid metric for security. Does "3ric" really propose that simply adding more Mac users would make the OS more secure, or that reducing the number of Windows users would make that plaform less secure? “Mac OS has far more published vulnerabilities per user than Windows does so I think the data pretty much speaks for itself.” Yes, and what “the data says” is this: “published vulnerabilities per user” is an inconceivably stupid metric for security.

Does “3ric” really propose that simply adding more Mac users would make the OS more secure, or that reducing the number of Windows users would make that plaform less secure?

]]> By: Apple’s Mac OS X is less secure than Windows « NoticFresh Weblog http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-489 Apple’s Mac OS X is less secure than Windows « NoticFresh Weblog Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:54:18 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-489 [...] Reguly, a senior security research engineer with Ncircle told the newnewinternet that if you take a look at the two platforms, and the mindsets of the companies behind them, then [...] [...] Reguly, a senior security research engineer with Ncircle told the newnewinternet that if you take a look at the two platforms, and the mindsets of the companies behind them, then [...]

]]> By: Mac OS X è meno sicuro di Windows, molti ricercatori concordano - Geekissimo http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-486 Mac OS X è meno sicuro di Windows, molti ricercatori concordano - Geekissimo Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:02:16 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-486 [...] | The New New Internet] [Photo Credits | geerlingguy su Flickr] [...] [...] | The New New Internet] [Photo Credits | geerlingguy su Flickr] [...]

]]> By: Mallory Brown http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/2010/02/02/my-computer-is-more-secure-than-yours-or-not-the-pc-vs-mac-security-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-469 Mallory Brown Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:56:09 +0000 http://www.thenewnewinternet.com/?p=2832#comment-469 I agree, for a long time the percentage of Mac users especially in the United States was significantly smaller than PC users, perhaps giving less motivation to vandals. However, hacking is a business and seeing that currently there are over 75 million OS X users, its not going to be very long until the number of cyber attacks aimed at these users jumps drastically. The mac using public should understand that their platform is just as vulnerable as a PC. I agree, for a long time the percentage of Mac users especially in the United States was significantly smaller than PC users, perhaps giving less motivation to vandals. However, hacking is a business and seeing that currently there are over 75 million OS X users, its not going to be very long until the number of cyber attacks aimed at these users jumps drastically. The mac using public should understand that their platform is just as vulnerable as a PC.

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